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#1 12-09-2022 16:42:16

Lupa
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Distrib. : Debian Stretch 4.9.110-3+deb9u6 / Buster
Noyau : 4.9.0-8-amd64 (Stretch) Buster : 5.4.0-0.bpo.2-amd
(G)UI : xfce
Inscription : 28-06-2017

Un ecommande ntfsfix qui ne résoud pas toput.

Bonjour à tous smile

La commande :


ntfsfix /dev/sdc1
 



Elle me disait que le problème était résolu. Non, pas vraiment.

Contexte

Je récupère de très précieux fichiers depuis un dd externe partitionné, formaté et utilisé sous Mac OS. 3 To. Partitionnement GPT bien sûr.

Or, lorsque j'ai tenté de le monter sous Win10, impossible. La gestion des fichiers voyait bien une partition GPT, avec même une EFI etc. Mais pas Explorer. Je me suis dit que Linux lirait ce disque. C'est exact.

Vu le contenu plus que bizarre (des nom de répertoire et/ou fichiers avec des ':' notamment, que je vais forcément renommer) j'ai commencé la copie des dossiers vers un 2 To NTFS. Partitionné et formaté par GParted.

Ca prend des plombes, mais tant pis. Les fichiers n'étant pas lisibles sous Windows le seront sans doute sous Mac. Dans le bureau du propriétaire, il travaille sous Windows 10.

Nous sommes donc sur mon 2 To, et surtout pas sur le disque à sauvegarder ! AUCUN accès en écriture là-dessus.
Mais...

J'ai dû faire une bêtise en le démontant. Mal ou trop vite. Résultat : impossible de le monter à nouveau.
J'ai donc saisi cette commande ci-dessus.
Mais PAS sur le /dev/sdc : sur le /dev/sdc1 !

La même commande sur le /dev/sdc me retourne un erreur.
Gparted, lancé à la rescousse sur mon 2 To, m'affiche un fichier .htm TRES long. Je vais essayer de le mettre ici :




GParted 0.32.0 --enable-libparted-dmraid --enable-online-resize

Libparted 3.2
Vérifier et réparer le système de fichiers (ntfs) sur /dev/sdd1  00:00:04    ( ERREUR )
     
calibrer /dev/sdd1  00:00:00    ( SUCCÈS )
     
chemin : /dev/sdd1 (partition)
début : 2048
fin : 3907028991
taille : 3907026944 (1.82 Tio)
vérifier le système de fichiers sur /dev/sdd1 et corriger les problèmes (si possible)  00:00:04    ( ERREUR )
     
ntfsresize -i -f -v '/dev/sdd1'  00:00:04    ( ERREUR )
     
ntfsresize v2017.3.23AR.3 (libntfs-3g)
Device name : /dev/sdd1
NTFS volume version: 3.1
Cluster size : 4096 bytes
Current volume size: 2000397791744 bytes (2000398 MB)
Current device size: 2000397795328 bytes (2000398 MB)
Checking for bad sectors ...
Checking filesystem consistency ...
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100.00 percent completed
ERROR: Filesystem check failed!
ERROR: 995 clusters are referenced multiple times.
NTFS is inconsistent. Run chkdsk /f on Windows then reboot it TWICE!
The usage of the /f parameter is very IMPORTANT! No modification was
and will be made to NTFS by this software until it gets repaired.

========================================

 



Je voulais bien faire chkdsk /f , comme il le dit,


ERROR: Filesystem check failed!
ERROR: 995 clusters are referenced multiple times.
NTFS is inconsistent. Run chkdsk /f on Windows then reboot it TWICE!
The usage of the /f parameter is very IMPORTANT! No modification was
and will be made to NTFS by this software until it gets repaired.
 



mais lorsque je lance la commande, il ne se passe rien.

Ma question : mieux vaut le reformater, quitte à recommencer une partie des sauvegardes non encore déjà copiées sur le 2 To, ou existe-t-il une commande pour faire ça sous Linux ?

Un utilitaire qui permettait de réparer mon disque ?

Merci.
Rien que l'un seulement des répertoires du précieux disque source a pris.... trois jours sans discontinuer pour effectuer les copies. C'est fragmenté, des répertoires contiennent une quantité pharamineuse de fichiers... Plus les ':' Pfff ! La galère. J'ignorais que les Mac toléraient ce type de nom de fichier...

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#2 12-09-2022 17:01:25

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Re : Un ecommande ntfsfix qui ne résoud pas toput.

Désolé... Il a tiré plus vite que moi.
Un chkdsk /f semble avoir résolu le problème.

Mais, pour mon information personnelle : Mac Os (qui descend de Debian) accepte les nom de fichiers de type : blabla:09:2016 ??

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#3 12-09-2022 17:20:21

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Re : Un ecommande ntfsfix qui ne résoud pas toput.

Sauf erreur de ma part, les systèmes basés sur Linux acceptent en général tous les caractères autres que le slash (/) dans les noms de fichiers. Ça inclut donc même des trucs aussi surprenant que les sauts de ligne, ou même les emojis.

Mac OS est de mémoire sur une base BSD, mais je ne serais pas surpris qu’il ne donne pas plus de contraintes sur les noms de fichiers.

Jouer sous Debian ? Facile !

Ceterum censeo Barum esse delendam

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#4 13-09-2022 16:06:55

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Re : Un ecommande ntfsfix qui ne résoud pas toput.

Désolé pour l'exhumation de post, mais je commence à avoir des doutes sur le disque source, partitionné et formaté sous Mac.
Ca fait X fois qu'il me contraint à un chkdsk /f sur le disque de destination. Il doit être lu sous Windows : donc : formaté NTFS.

Or, le disque source, très ancien, a été partitionné et formaté sous Mac.
Ce que je prenais pour de la fragmentation (elle existe aussi un petit peu sous Linux), ne serait-il pas des erreurs d'accès disque ?

En clair : sous Linux, et sans trop de risque, existe-t-il une façon de faire pour réparer le système de fichiers d'un Mac ?

Après tout, Mac OS, c'est du Debian...

GParted ? Je ne sais pas s'il est conçu pour ça.

De toute façon, avant toute "artisterie" (je parle pour moi, pas pour vous wink ) sur ce disque, j'en fais une image avec CloneZilla. Le disque en question (le Mac) n'est pas occupé à plus de 700 Go. Peu importe qu'il supporte 3 To...

Qu'en pensez-vous ?

Ca gratte, ça gratte... Mais c'est peut-être à cause, non de sa fragmentation, mais d'erreurs d'écriture ?

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#5 13-09-2022 16:28:36

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Re : Un ecommande ntfsfix qui ne résoud pas toput.

Bonjour,
Je ne sais pas si ça pourrait t'aider, je suis tombé sur la description de ce paquet :

Package(s): funcoeszz


Funcoes ZZ est un script bash contenant plus de 170 applications utiles, prêtes à l’emploi à partir de la
 ligne de commande sur les systèmes UNIX (Linux, BSD, Cygwin, Mac OS X et autres). Ces fonctions incluent :


 

– manipulation de fichier (modification de nom, d’extension, de contenu)


mais;

 Ce script est uniquement en portugais brésilien.



absolument aucune idée de comment ça marche, en plus je parle pas brésilien,
mais peut-être tu peux y trouver quelquechose qui te serve ...
https://packages.debian.org/bullseye/funcoeszz

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#6 13-09-2022 16:43:28

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Re : Un ecommande ntfsfix qui ne résoud pas toput.

Merci, Ubub !

Pour Bullseye. Je verrai bien si ça existe pour Buster.

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#7 13-09-2022 16:56:40

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Re : Un ecommande ntfsfix qui ne résoud pas toput.

De toute façon, il est bien l'heure de passer de buster à bullseye .....

10 septembre 2022
Le projet Debian a l'honneur d'annoncer la treizième (et dernière) mise à jour de sa distribution oldstable Debian 10 (nom de code "Buster").
Après cette version intermédiaire, les équipes de sécurité et de publication de Debian ne produiront plus de mises à jour pour Debian 10. Les utilisateurs qui souhaitent continuer à bénéficier du suivi de sécurité devraient mettre à niveau vers Debian 11


https://www.debian.org/News/2022/20220910

ca existe:
https://packages.debian.org/buster/funcoeszz

Dernière modification par ubub (13-09-2022 16:58:44)

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#8 14-09-2022 19:32:13

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Re : Un ecommande ntfsfix qui ne résoud pas toput.

Lupa a écrit :

Après tout, Mac OS, c'est du Debian...



Je ne sais pas d’où te vient cette idée mais elle est erronée, ces deux systèmes n’ont vraiment pas grand chose à voir l’un avec l’autre. Ils font tous deux partie de la très large famille des systèmes UNIX mais on fait aussi entrer dans cette famille des trucs comme Android ou les systèmes d’exploitation des PlayStation, et plus généralement presque tout ce qui ne sort pas de chez Microsoft.


Jouer sous Debian ? Facile !

Ceterum censeo Barum esse delendam

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#9 21-09-2022 10:25:24

Lupa
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Re : Un ecommande ntfsfix qui ne résoud pas toput.

Bonjour wink
Bon. J'ai dû me tromper.
En tout cas, le disque Mac n'est pas réparable (je ne m'y risquerais pas : trop de données médicales très importantes).

Je n'ai (et en root) qu'un accès en lecture sur ce disque.
Resterait GParted, mais pas question de me voir reprocher d'avoir flingué quoi que ce soit.


Alors, pour les virgules dans les noms de fichiers, oui ça passe... plus ou moins sur une partition Windows.

J'ai fait comme ça : source : dd Mac, destination  : partition EXT4, puis copie de ce que je pouvais repérer avec ces noms bizarres, vers une partition NTFS. Si j'y allais directement sur une partition Windows, catastrophe. Plantage du gestionnaire de fichiers (pourtant très sûr) et chkdsk /f indispensable aussitôt après.

Quelle idée de créer et/ou renommer des répertoires et fichiers comme ça kernal_panic.gif

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