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#1 08-01-2022 16:08:56

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Lieu : Dans le grand nord
Distrib. : Bullseye
Noyau : Linux debian 5.10.0-10-amd64
(G)UI : Xfce 4.16.2
Inscription : 11-03-2010

Timeshift ou deja dup

Bonjour à tous,

j'ai testé timeshift et deja dup et j'ai quelques questions :
lequel utilisez-vous
quel est le plus complet
faut-il sauvegarder /root
j'ai constaté que timeshift est plus rapide par contre à la fin de la sauvegarde par deja dup j'ai ce message : " impossible de sauvegarder assurez-vous de pouvoir les ouvrir "

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Dernière modification par unit (08-01-2022 16:10:35)


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#2 08-01-2022 16:34:22

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Re : Timeshift ou deja dup

Hello
Personnellement j'utilise deja-dup sauvegarde sur disque externe planifié par semaine, si le disque est absent j'ai un message qui me prévient que la sauvegarde débutera des que le support sera connecté
Vérifié que ton support de destination ne soit pas saturé, cela peut arrivé si tu n'as pas pensé a exclure certain point de montage qui pourrait contenir beaucoup trop de volume de données


Il me semble que timeshift n'est pas un logiciel de sauvegarde mais + un logiciel qui créé des points de restauration un peu comme sur Windows
c'est pour cela qu'il te semble plus rapide

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#3 08-01-2022 16:47:08

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Re : Timeshift ou deja dup

Hello,

Personnellement, j'utilise timeshift.
Je ne connais pas deja dup.

timeshift est prévu pour sauvegarder le système au vu d'une restauration.
Mais il fait aussi très bien le taf pour de la sauvegarde de données.

Pour ton message, je dirais que c'est un problème de droits.
deja dup se lance-t-il avec des droits root ?

Comme la science n'est pas infuse, elle se diffuse.
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#4 08-01-2022 17:07:17

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Re : Timeshift ou deja dup

Lorsque j'essaie de lancer déja-dup avec le terminal en super utilisateur j'ai ce message :

échec dû à une erreur inconnue : Traceback (innermost last):
  File "/usr/bin/duplicity", line 122, in <module>
    with_tempdir(main)
  File "/usr/bin/duplicity", line 108, in with_tempdir
    fn()
  File "/usr/lib/python3/dist-packages/duplicity/dup_main.py", line 1522, in main
    action = commandline.ProcessCommandLine(sys.argv[1:])
  File "/usr/lib/python3/dist-packages/duplicity/commandline.py", line 1187, in ProcessCommandLine
    config.backend = backend.get_backend(args[0])
  File "/usr/lib/python3/dist-packages/duplicity/backend.py", line 223, in get_backend
    obj = get_backend_object(url_string)
  File "/usr/lib/python3/dist-packages/duplicity/backend.py", line 209, in get_backend_object
    return factory(pu)
  File "/usr/lib/python3/dist-packages/duplicity/backends/giobackend.py", line 82, in __init__
    ensure_dbus()
  File "/usr/lib/python3/dist-packages/duplicity/backends/giobackend.py", line 37, in ensure_dbus
    output = p.communicate()[0].decode("utf8", errors="replace")
 AttributeError: 'str' object has no attribute 'decode'



Vérifié que ton support de destination ne soit pas saturé, cela peut arrivé si tu n'as pas pensé a exclure certain point de montage qui pourrait contenir beaucoup trop de volume de données


j'utilise un disque dur externe et il ne semble pas saturé

Dernière modification par unit (08-01-2022 17:25:20)


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#5 08-01-2022 17:45:38

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Re : Timeshift ou deja dup

déja-dup est une application graphique et n'est pas prévu pour être lancé dans un terminale root

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#6 08-01-2022 17:48:38

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Re : Timeshift ou deja dup

Ok une idée pour le message qui arrive après la vérification de la sauvegarde.

Exige beaucoup de toi-même et attends peu des autres. Ainsi beaucoup d'ennuis te seront épargnés.
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#7 08-01-2022 18:07:17

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Re : Timeshift ou deja dup

Bonjour,
je n'utilise pas time shit mais deja-dup.
Depuis 3 ans, il fait une sauvegarde par semaine avec un roulement sur "au moins les 6 derniers mois", sur disque interne mais pas systématiquement monté.
Aucun problème à ce jour.

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#8 08-01-2022 19:07:25

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Re : Timeshift ou deja dup

unit a écrit :

Ok une idée pour le message qui arrive après la vérification de la sauvegarde.



Bonjour et bonne année 2022 ! smile

J'utilise deja-dup, mes sauvegardes se font sur des supports de stockage ayant un système de fichiers UDF. Déjà, je surveille le disque de destination afin qu'il ne se remplisse pas trop !
Le remplissage de mon support de stockage destination de la sauvegarde :

df --type=udf | grep sdc

/dev/sdc1          121304828 86268719   35036110  72% /media/intervenant101/UDF-115,69Gio



J'avais eu un message qui me disait à peu près la même chose que le tien, alors j'ai viré des vidéos ( dans la source de la sauvegarde ) que je croyais que j'allais regarder à nouveau, alors qu'il s'était passé des mois sans que je les regarde, justement pour faire de la place !




Dans Préférences-> Folders, je choisis de sauvegarder que le dossier utilisateur, en plus j'exclus la sauvegarde des dossiers qui me sont d'aucune utilité, le cache, les caches des navigateurs, le dossier Téléchargements ( je n'ai qu'à ranger correctement mes fichiers ! ) et depuis, je vire de temps en temps des vidéos pour arriver à rester en dessous des 75 % d'utilisation du disque de destination.

Je me donc suis fixé une marge restante de 25 % qui me sert éventuellement à sauvegarder provisoirement et éventuellement des documents que je jugerais très importants avant de les mettre ailleurs pour revenir à ma marge de sécurité.

Et cela roule ! big_smile


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